One Market: Season 1, Episode 3

Make Sure Your Hair Looks Good

Air Date: April 13, 2020

Episode Notes

#3 Make Sure Your Hair Looks Good

April 13, 2020

0:00 Interview with Heidi Northwood

9:39 Interview with Trish McLaren

19:44 Interview with Tyler Britz

Learn more about our host, guests and their work:

Bruce Gillespie, Associate Professor

Heidi Northwood, Senior Executive Officer, Brantford Campus

Trish McLaren, Associate Professor and Program Director

Tyler Britz, History student and LOCUS Don

One Market is created and produced by Bruce Gillespie and Tarah Brookfield. Music by Scott Holmes. Graphics by Melissa Weaver.

Transcript

Bruce Gillespie 0:02
Welcome to One Market, keeping the Laurier Brantford community connected. I’m Bruce Gillespie. This is Episode Three. This week we speak to the campus’ senior executive officer about how plans are already being made for when we return to campus. Then, we talk to a professor who’s preparing to teach her first remote course at the start of the spring and summer semester, just a few weeks away. And then, we hear from our first student guest, who explains how his life has changed since the end of in-person classes, what the summer job market looks like and how he’s supporting other students who live off campus stay connected. All that and more coming up on this episode of One Market.

Our first guest is Heidi Northwood, Laurier Brantford’s Senior Executive Officer. She’s the president’s representative on campus and our liaison with community partners and external stakeholders, including the city and the Chamber of Commerce. She’s involved in a lot of long-term strategic planning and thinking about the future of our campus. Here’s our conversation. Hi, Heidi, and thanks for joining us on One Market.

Heidi Northwood 1:13
Hi Bruce, it’s great to be here.

Bruce Gillespie 1:16
One of my first questions for you is, my impression of your role as Senior Executive Officer of the Brantford campus is that you spend most of your time in meetings with people on campus, with stakeholders off campus, various levels of government. So, if that is indeed the case, how is your job changing now that we’re all working remotely, is your life just one giant Zoom meeting from dawn till dusk?

Heidi Northwood 1:40
It’s funny that you should put it that way because in fact, that’s exactly what my life has turned into. Today, I counted, I looked at my calendar, and I have nine online meetings today. And some of them are by phone, but most of them are by video conferencing, which is, which is great. But, it does mean that you have to get up and make sure that your hair looks good before before the day starts because usually there’s no chance to fix it as you go through the day.

Bruce Gillespie 2:08
So, is that changing, I mean, I presume it doesn’t change the content of what you’re doing. But, does it change the manner of how your work goes, the fact that you’re meeting all these folks remotely online all the time, as opposed to having those in person meetings that you’d normally have?

Heidi Northwood 2:24
I think the challenge is developing new relationships that need to be, you know, developed during this period. So, with pre-existing friends and partners in the community, well, I’m thinking off campus, primarily because on campus, those relationships, of course, are usually long standing, and it’s very easy to continue to work through a conversation, whether it be by phone, or by video. The challenge is when those new relationships, because of the situation we find ourselves in, become a more prominent priority. If you don’t know the person, if you haven’t had an in person meeting with them in the past, it’s a little bit more challenging. Although I must say, given the kind of situation we do find ourselves in, it’s not as difficult to get people’s attention and just start working on problems, whatever they happen to be.

Bruce Gillespie 3:22
So, part of your role, again, my impression of your role, is that you’re doing a lot of long term strategic planning as well. How does, how does that part of your job change in a time when we’re suddenly shifting to thinking about really immediate concerns? How do you, how do you even start thinking about the long-term planning and strategic planning that you would normally be doing?

Heidi Northwood 3:41
It’s actually taken two forms at present. So, as much as there was a lot of strategic long-term planning happening for the Brantford campus, I’m trying as much as possible to continue that kind of planning with a slightly different focus. So, for example, thinking about the development of our mall, One Market, after which this program is named, we are continuing working very hard, we’re actually, we’re working with an external consultant right now to do some, some market analysis as to what people in the community as well as our students would like to see in the mall. So, that’s all very positive, and it’s moving forward. But, we have had to pivot to a large degree about what we take our priorities to be in One Market. So, all of those things that are more community-facing and focused on the economic development of the downtown have taken a real, a real front and centre, I’d say, front and centre stage for this as we move forward because this could be a long time that we’re, that we’re online primarily, and so we want to really get going on those things that help the community, but also are those things that we can do virtually.

Bruce Gillespie 5:02
Sure. And I guess in that way, then it really is a benefit to have all those really established relationships with all sorts of the community members, community partners, various stakeholders already because we’re a known element. You’ve been here in Brantford for quite a while now, so it must help that those establish relationships to work with.

Heidi Northwood 5:19
Absolutely. In particular working with the Chamber of Commerce, the City of Brantford, the Economic Development and Tourism Office within the City of Brantford, the city councillors who are out in the community, all of those relationships as well as, of course, the mayor and the CAO Brian Hutchings, all of those, all of those relationships are key in trying to move forward something that, as you say, doesn’t seem like it’s a top top priority. The development of the reanimation as well as renovation of One Market might not seem like a top priority, but we will be getting through this and we have to have our, our feet on the ground as we then think about what what are the next steps after we’re, we’ve all emerged from our houses.

Bruce Gillespie 6:04
No kidding. And I think that that’s reassuring to know, we said in the first episode of this podcast, one of the reasons why we called it One Market was to, sort of, keep the idea of that space alive, it’s sad that it finally, sort of, got reopened, all these classrooms and beautiful student spaces and student services spaces open just a couple of weeks before we had to leave, it was so heartbreaking.

Heidi Northwood 6:28
I agree it was heartbreaking for me too, which is why, and I can actually, I can say that probably a third of my time right now is actually still devoted to the development of the One Market plans and, and getting all that going. It’s an incredibly important project not only for Laurier Brantford, but also for the city, and I think that actually becomes even more important, given the circumstances of the pandemic and what that will mean for small businesses in the downtown and beyond. And in fact, in both of our communities, both Waterloo as well as Brantford.

Bruce Gillespie 7:05
So, when you’re not in your day-long Zoom meetings, how are you keeping yourself busy or distracted in your off hours when you would normally be you know, traveling or outside your home doing something interesting? What are you doing instead?

Heidi Northwood 7:19
Well, Saturday morning I woke up and I thought, I’ve got to do something with this garden that I’ve been neglecting for two years. So, I went online and I bought, because my eyes were bigger than my yard, two of those big yellow things of mulch, yellow, big yellow bags of mulch. And then I thought oh, okay, so they’ll be delivered sometime, when they, sometime in April. But, how am I going to move that mulch around. So, then I went online, and I bought a wheelbarrow and a fork, a mulch fork from Canadian Tire curbside pickup, and I went and picked it up later that day. And now, I’m waiting for my mulch and trying to clear up the gardens well enough to put the mulch in it. But, I’ve also kind of, well, lost my motivation to do that. So, it was a great idea on Saturday morning, and now I’m waiting for the mulch and now, I’m afraid that I bought too much. And anyway, so it’s something to think about outside of the Zoom meetings.

Bruce Gillespie 8:16
I guess, just this pervasive sense of dread of seeing two giant yellow bags of mulch appear in your driveway.

Heidi Northwood 8:23
Yeah, and unfortunately, we don’t even have a driveway. So, they’re gonna have to put them on the grass, which means that I really do have to do something or else all the grass will be dead within a week. So, we’ll see how that goes.

Bruce Gillespie 8:35
It’s pretty good incentive, all around.

Heidi Northwood 8:37
Yes. The other thing though that we are doing, because my husband is an academic and he’s finishing up his term online, teaching online, we have very full days, and so at the end of it we try to well, in fact, we’ve been very good about it every day at about five in between 5 and 6 pm, we go out and exercise. We live close to a hill. So, my husband walks up and down it with with a backpack full of books and I run for that period. So, it’s a, it’s a nice way of getting out. There’s not too many people around, so we feel very safe.

Bruce Gillespie 9:13
Well, that’s great. Heidi, thank you so much for joining us today.

Heidi Northwood 9:16
Thank you, Bruce, this is, this is a real pleasure to talk to you. And it’s a real pleasure to be part of this this podcast series. It’s, I was just delighted when it, when you announced it was coming up.

Bruce Gillespie 9:29
Our next guest is Trish Genoe McLaren, a professor and director of the Business Technology Management Program, which is offered by the Lazaridis School of Business and Economics here in Brantford. Unlike most faculty who teach in the fall and winter and take their research semester in the summer and the spring, Trish is getting ready to start classes in just a few short weeks because of BTM’s unique course structure. I asked her to explain how the program works to start us off.

Trish McLaren 9:56
In the Business Technology Management Program, we run three full-time cohorts through the summer semester. So, we have all of our fourth years are here in their final semester. And then, we have two separate groups of third-year students. So, what we call 3A and 3B. So, we’re actually running three full-time sets of classes.

Bruce Gillespie 10:22
Wow. So, the summer semesters is a busy semester for you folks, then.

Trish McLaren 10:26
It is, it’s our busiest semester of the whole year, it’s when we offer the most, the most courses.

Bruce Gillespie 10:31
Wow. So, this is part of the reason why we want to talk to you because I think a lot of us who don’t teach in the summer were, you know, we had to sort of switch the last three weeks of our classes to remote online and that was confusing enough. And then, we started thinking about folks like you who are having to take that same short amount of time and try to figure out how to deliver spring and summer classes remotely. And so, we wanted to hear from someone is doing it. What’s that like? How’s it been? How are you? How are you preparing for this?

Trish McLaren 10:59
Yeah, so it has certainly added another level of stress on top of everything. So, we had to get people through their winter courses, which are, we’re now in exams. So, hopefully the exams will go well, but we did get the semester ended. But, as soon as we heard that there was the potential for classes to be shut down, as soon as the university started talking about it, we were right there, and when I say we, the BBA students up in Waterloo, a number of them are also in full time courses through the summer. So, BTM isn’t the only group that does that, and so the academic administrators in the business school were right there saying, “What about the spring? What about the spring? Don’t forget about us,” because so much focus was on, well, we just have to finish the winter. So, at the same time, as we were helping our instructors get through the winter, we were immediately thinking about how we were going to handle the spring.

The university did make the decision that we will start remote and we will stay remote, we will not at any point come back during the spring, which of course makes sense for undergrads because we can’t ask them to move back to Brantford four or five weeks into the semester and find somewhere to live right? So, we had to, the university had to make the call about how long we would be out, and they decided the full semester, which is disappointing in the sense that of course, we would all much rather be in the classroom. But, understandable in that we can’t ask the students to move back. So, what we’ve been doing is trying to figure out how to run a high-quality remote course, where with the winter semester, I know instructors were working very hard to finish off as well as they could, there was definitely a sense of, we might not do as much content or we’re going to, we’re going to maybe decrease the weight of assignments or however we handle that to get through. But, the spring semester where we’re going in knowing that the whole 12 weeks will be remote, we are now trying to figure out how to make sure we’re offering good quality courses.

Bruce Gillespie 13:03
Right, which is certainly what the rest of us will be doing for fall probably, but we have months to think about this. So, I really feel for you having to do it in this really short time period. So, what are some of the things you’ve been thinking about? or doing? or how are you approaching this? Because are you someone who’s taught, like, completely online courses before?

Trish McLaren 13:24
No, no, I have never taught an online course, and we are going with this terminology of online versus remote learning. So, the university is still offering the normal online courses this summer, which my students need as electives. So, it’s not just that I need my required courses, right my fourth years need their electives or they can’t graduate. And then any course that would normally have been in a classroom, we are calling remote learning. And because of course an online course takes a year to develop and to set up all the modules and everything.

Bruce Gillespie 13:56
Absolutely, yeah, and I think you’re right, I think that terminology is sort of you know, these are emergency remote courses. These are not like the normal online courses you take, I think that’s a really important distinction.

Trish McLaren 14:04
Right? And so, we’re maintaining that distinction. And we are telling students, you need to maintain your time slot, like your schedule, a classroom three hours a week in that day and time both students and instructors. We’ve said you need to maintain that and you need to be doing some sort of virtual contact during those three hours. Then the question becomes, what does that look like? So, the university and ICT has been absolutely fantastic and getting technology set up for everybody quickly in terms of Zoom, and Respondus and the Lockdown Browsers and all of that has been done so well. And now I’m turning my attention to actually pedagogy. And so, in fact this week, because my fourth-year course is done, this week I’m spending the week reading about pedagogical effectiveness of online synchronous learning because we’re trying to run synchronous classes. There’s not actually a lot out there because most online learning is asynchronous.

Bruce Gillespie 15:01
That’s right.

Trish McLaren 15:01
Right. And you can’t do a three-hour Zoom lecture, it doesn’t work for the student or the instructor.

Bruce Gillespie 15:07
No, I can imagine. Nobody wants to do that.

Trish McLaren 15:10
Nobody wants to do that, it’s not effective. And so, what I’m doing now is reading as much as I can about how can we make that time worthwhile for the students, and still engage them, and still have some level of synchronous contact between the students and the instructor. So, that’s really what we’re focusing on right now to try and help myself, because I will be teaching, as well as our other instructors, know what to do with their classes for the spring.

Bruce Gillespie 15:35
Yeah, and I think that makes sense, as you say, there’s tons of really great evidence-based research out there about online teaching, but a lot of it is asynchronous. So, to find resources that specifically speaks to what we’re all trying to do now, or what many of us will do in the fall probably, is an entirely different thing. But, I think you’re right, I’m starting with, I mean, we’re academics, starting with evidence based research is the place to, this should be your first step.

Trish McLaren 15:58
Right, yeah, for sure. So, I’ve got books, I’ve got articles, and actually fascinating reading, I love reading about pedagogy. So, it’s been fun. How often do you get a week or two to just sit down and read about pedagogy to try to make your courses better, it’s difficult to find that time. And so, being required to do it, in some ways is good, because I’m learning all about different kinds of pedagogy. But yeah, trying to figure out how we can, how we can not, how we can engage the students and the instructors, because instructors need to be engaged in order to offer a good course, right?

Bruce Gillespie 16:29
Sure.

Trish McLaren 16:29
If we’re not engaged, then it’s harder for us to make the the content interesting and motivating.

Bruce Gillespie 16:34
And, and I think, too, there’s a comfort level as an instructor that you need to have with what you’re teaching in higher teaching in order to do the teaching well, right? If you’re spending, I think we’ve all had these, you know, examples, the beginning of our careers, you know, you walk into the room, and there’s a projector you’ve never used before, and you spend the whole class, in the back your mind thinking about what the projector is doing, you’re sort of you’re not concentrating on listening to students and getting through your content. So, I think that, I think that comfort factor is a big, big part of it.

Trish McLaren 17:00
It is, it is and we’re going to, well, I’m going to be quite upfront with my students from day one that I haven’t done this before. And so, managing the screen sharing and speaking and the chat box, and all of those things is going to take me I think a few classes to get comfortable with, as well as for them to get comfortable with. So, we’re I’m, just going to be upfront with them and say, “Look, we’re figuring this out together.” And my experience with students is that if you’re upfront with not knowing things, or not quite sure how they’re working, that they’re always very understanding of that, as opposed to going in and saying, you know what you’re doing, and then you don’t, that’s where you get into trouble.

Bruce Gillespie 17:40
I agree 100%,

Trish McLaren 17:42
I’m always in my classes, trying to convince students that they need to figure out how to learn this stuff on their own. Because once they get out of school people, they’re more useful to the world, right? If they can figure out the tools on their own and figure out how to do it.

Bruce Gillespie 17:55
Absolutely.

Trish McLaren 17:56
Some of that will come up even a lot more this, in this coming semester, because I’m going to be like, “Okay, if you guys figure out stuff that I don’t know, then tell me and I will learn from you as well.”

Bruce Gillespie 18:05
It must be some comfort to you, I think the students to that, especially with a fourth-year class that, you know, these folks already they know you, they know the program, that must sort of make things a bit more comfortable, at least as opposed to brand new students who are just starting here for the first time.

Trish McLaren 18:21
I think with some of the courses it will, for my particular course in the spring I’m teaching are entering third-year class who I haven’t taught before. And I’m thinking that will make it harder for both of us, they’ve all met me and I’ve met them at various BTM events, I know their names, but I don’t know their personalities. So, it’s more difficult to potentially get to know them. I think for some of the fourth-years, they will have instructors who they’ve had before, which I think will be helpful for them as well. I know our fourth-years, all of our students are upset that they can’t be here. BTM as well, same with your program I’m sure is very small, and it’s a very close knit group. And so the fourth-years in particular are sad that they’re not going to be here for their final semester. And so, also trying to figure out ways if we can continue developing or maintaining the BTM community, which usually in the spring semester is very strong, because of course in the spring, the BTM students are generally the only ones on campus.

Bruce Gillespie 19:18
Right. So, they are campus.

Trish McLaren 19:21
And we have a lot more student planned events going on. And we have a lot more, we in the past we’ve had baseball games and barbecues. And at the end of the year, we always, there’s some kind of event for all the students. So, once I get my course figured out, then I’ll start figuring out if there’s ways we can maintain that community as well.

Bruce Gillespie 19:41
Our next guest is Tyler Britz, our first student guest. Tyler is a third-year History student who’s busy finishing up the winter semester and wondering what his summer will look like. Here’s our conversation. What’s it like from a student perspective? How has the last three weeks looked like for you?

Tyler Britz 19:59
Um, It could be better, I’ll say that. There’s been, like, all the changes are kind of, it’s, it’s hard to adapt to, like, in such a quick pace, because literally I just remember, like, it was a Thursday and everyone, all my profs were like, “Hey, we’re probably gonna shut down.” And then I was like, that won’t happen. And then the next day, they were like, “Don’t come back, like, school’s, school’s done.” And then, everything moved online, and I feel like the first week of everything being online was much worse than everything now, Because it was really hectic and all the profs were kind of scrambling to figure everything out. And I think they all did a really good job, or most of mine at least. But, now things have kind of mellowed and into exams, and it’s just kind of weird. Like, I don’t really have a precedent in my mind for this. It’s just new and foreign.

Bruce Gillespie 20:54
So, what’s your, what’s your, sort of, studying life look like these days? We’re into exams, obviously, so classes are over, but, like, do you find it, are you still able to work at home in the same way that you would have sort of worked on campus?

Tyler Britz 21:06
When there wasn’t a global pandemic, I did a lot of my work at school, because it was just easier for me to be in, like, the work environment. And I know I’ve talked to a lot of people where that’s the same as them, they have trouble working at home, because, you know, home is where you eat, and sleep, and have fun, not where you are trying to get an essay done or study for an exam.

Bruce Gillespie 21:29
That’s right, home has lots of distractions that school doesn’t always have.

Tyler Britz 21:31
Absolutely. I think my, the kind of almost, trade-off is, while I’m at home, if I’m isolated, kind of isolate myself in my home, so self-isolate within the self isolation already. I feel like I’m doing work for longer periods of time. I’m per se, studying for longer than I would have if I was at school. But, I think motivating myself to get to that point is a lot harder. But, I also will admit that I’m weird and have pretty bad study habits to begin with. So, maybe I’m not I’m not a good benchmark.

Bruce Gillespie 22:06
I’m not sure that makes you unusual. To be honest, I think lots of us have really bad study habits. So, I think we’re probably on the same boat together. What are you hearing from your friends? Is everybody in the same boat? Or like what have some of their concerns been?

Tyler Britz 22:18
Yeah, I’ve heard, most of my friends have said the same thing about how it’s just hard to to stick with deadlines, and similar sentiments that I’m experiencing. But, I I feel like there’s definitely a gradient, some people are dealing with it a lot better than others.

Bruce Gillespie 22:40
That’s fair. One of the things I was thinking about the other day, and I read some stuff in newspapers about as well is, presumably, summer will look really different for most students, then it would have in years past or even then it would have a month ago. Have your summer plans changed at all? What are they looking like these days?

Tyler Britz 22:57
Absolutely. My summer plans have changed completely because I, as a History student, I usually try to get a job at a museum or doing something for the government, like at a historical site. And last year, I was successful in such an endeavor, but this year, I put out applications, but now the government’s not offering any grants and everybody can’t leave their homes. So, it’s not like I can just go out and get a, like a summer temp job. Because obviously, no one’s gonna be hiring right now, at least. I am lucky enough, I don’t know, lucky, may be a dicey word, that I still have a job. I’m still employed during the quarantine, I work at a grocery store. So, I will still, I will still hopefully have at least part-time employment through the summer.

Bruce Gillespie 23:45
But, you’re losing that sort of discipline-related sort of job experience in history that you would have had otherwise?

Tyler Britz 23:52
Yeah, absolutely, because I feel like in History, they do, like, a lot of, like, History career nights and stuff like that. And they drill into us the importance of getting in to the field as early as you can and doing those government temp jobs. So, you have a foot in the door. And I feel like, besides the world being metaphorically on fire, that’s another problem that I’m dealing with.

Bruce Gillespie 24:14
I almost hesitate to ask, but what’s it like working in a grocery store these days?

Tyler Britz 24:19
Not as bad as you think. Like, there have been some days where it’s, like, a riot and you’re like, oh my gosh, like this is, kind of, really scary. But I, for me at least it’s more psychological. And I’m like, “Okay, I’m out here. There’s gonna be people coming in what if they’re sick? What if they get me sick?” Probably the only time I’ll ever say this in my life, but the big business that I work for specifically has actually been handling it pretty well, and they’ve been providing us with like protective stuff and keeping the cashier safe and stuff like that.

Bruce Gillespie 24:53
That’s good to hear. And certainly I think the rest of us are glad that people are still willing and able to work in grocery stores. Because if not, this would be so much worse.

Tyler Britz 25:03
Absolutely. We’d be starving as well as locked in our homes.

Bruce Gillespie 25:06
Yeah, exactly. The only thing, the only good thing about staying home if you can is that you’ve got snacks.

Tyler Britz 25:12
So true, that’s an isolation problem I’m experiencing. Eating too much or too little, because I don’t have a schedule.

Bruce Gillespie 25:20
Yeah, absolutely. Now, the other reason we wanted to talk to you was, you’re actually a LOCUS Don. So, you provide activities for students who live off campus as opposed to folks who, and, sort of, replicating the experience of living in a residence for folks who live off campus? How, how has that changed since the pandemic?

Tyler Britz 25:37
We have done a really good job of, I say we, but it’s been mostly my two bosses, shout out to them, Jess and Mitch, they’ve been doing a great job, kind of, moving everything online. So, they’re helping run the Laurier Stays at Home. And they’re, we’re doing events, a lot of events, like, two or three a week. Just keeping people involved and trying to keep people sane and connected with Laurier and their communities, even though they’re locked in their homes. So, like, I think they’ve done, like, they’re doing bingo every week, I ran an online trivia yesterday. Just stuff like that.

Bruce Gillespie 26:27
And how has the response been? Do people, I mean, presumably, you have people coming out?

Tyler Britz 26:31
Yeah, absolutely, I’ll admit to you right here, Bruce, that it was, we’re seeing, like, good turnout, like, a surprising amount of people that are, are still wanting to, like, be connected and be involved with the community, like, and I think that’s really great.

Bruce Gillespie 26:46
That’s so good to hear. Certainly, I’ve spoken to a few of our own students about, you know, what they’re doing. And I know, some of, you know, many have gone home, some can’t go home for whatever reason. So, they’re, you know, in a house by themselves and Brantford and I’ve tried to, you know, again, get them to reach out to different supports and you know, what’s in the community? What can happen online? Just to, again, really still feel like you’re connected in some ways, I think, especially for people at home by themselves. That must be really challenging.

Tyler Britz 27:12
Absolutely. I like to think that I have a pretty good support network, like, I live in a house with with four other people, and I am, I have like people with LOCUS, I have a good social network that I can still, like, engage with people. So, I’m self isolated, but I’m not, like, you know, in solitary confinement.

Bruce Gillespie 27:33
Last question for you, which we’re asking everybody is, how are you spending your sort of off hours when you would probably normally be outside your house going to visit people when instead you’re staying home? What have you found to distract yourself or keep yourself busy?

Tyler Britz 27:47
Um, I’ve been watching a lot of movies, and I watch a lot of movies when school is on, but now when I have even less pressure to get out of the house, I’m usually just sitting around and watching movies or just, kind of, taking it easy, I guess, that’s in the vaguest sense. I watched all five Pirates of the Caribbean movies last week, and that’s something I never thought, yeah, that’s something I never thought anybody should have to sit through. But we’re in unprecedented times here, so.

Bruce Gillespie 28:18
No kidding. Well, I mean, I can’t admit that I’m a huge fan of those movies, but I think those would be preferable to what I see online people watching all the pandemic contagion movies, I’m just like, that is so close to home. This does not feel entertaining.

Tyler Britz 28:30
That’s too real. Like, I don’t want to sit down and watch a movie about someone trying to save the world from a super virus because that makes me feel guilty for sitting at home and not trying to save the world from a super virus.

Bruce Gillespie 28:43
There you go. There you go. Well, Tyler, this has been great. Hopefully your summer is okay, and things keep on going. But, thanks for making time to talk to us today.

Tyler Britz 28:52
Thanks for having me. It’s been a pleasure.

Bruce Gillespie 28:55
And that’s a wrap. Thanks for joining us. We hope it’s helped you feel a little more connected to the Laurier Brantford community. If you’d like to appear in a future episode to talk about how you’re adjusting, please get in touch. We’d love to hear from staff, students and faculty. If you liked what you heard, tell your friends and colleagues. You can download program wherever you find podcasts. You can also find us online at one-market.simplecast.com. Follow us on Instagram at one.market.podcast or email us at one.market.podcast@gmail.com. We’ll be back with a new episode in about a week. One Market was created and produced by Bruce Gillespie and Tarah Brookfield, music by Scott Holmes, graphics by Melissa Weaver. Thanks for listening. Keep in touch!

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