Don’t Skimp on Wine and Chocolate
Air Date: May 11, 2020
#7 Don’t Skimp on Chocolate & Wine
May 11, 2020
0:00 Interview with Adam Bloomfield, Senior Administrative Assistant, Office of the Dean of Students
- COVID-19 Emergency Fund for Students
- Check out some quick, easy recipes at the Dean of Students Office Instagram page.
9:32 Interview with Natasha O’Neill, student and Editor, The Sputnik
19:24 Interview with Kate Rossiter, Associate Professor, Health Studies
- Institutional Violence and Disability: Punishing Conditions by Kate Rossiter
- Abide with Me: A Story of Two Pandemics by Kate Rossiter and Rebecca Godderis
One Market is created and produced by Bruce Gillespie and Tarah Brookfield. Music by Scott Holmes. Graphics by Melissa Weaver. Thanks to Nicole Morgan for campus promotion.
Bruce Gillespie 0:03
Welcome to One Market, keeping the Laurier Brantford community connected. I’m Bruce Gillespie. This is Episode Seven. This week, we hear about how the Dean of Students Office continues to support students remotely, and get an update from the editor in chief of The Sputnik on how her staff worked to produce stories after campus was closed. Then, we hear from a professor who has researched pandemics about what it’s like to see our work come to life. Plus, we talk about some of our favorite movies, staying active while staying at home, and how when all else fails, it’s time to pull out some chocolate. All that and more coming up on this episode of One Market.
Our first guest is Adam Bloomfield, as the administrative assistant in the Dean of Students Office, Adam is one of the most recognizable people on campus, I started our conversation by asking what working remotely has been like for the past two months.
Adam Bloomfield 1:03
it’s been a bit of a challenge, I think might be an understatement. It’s very difficult managing an office, even in the best of times, when there are five different departments, or five different staff spread out across an entire building. Now we’re five different staff spread out across several different cities, working from home. So, that’s been an interesting process, we’ve actually been pretty lucky that we jumped on sort of the whole online office thing a bit early, we’ve kept all of our sort of data and records online for a few years now. So, that just really made the transition to work from home a little bit more smooth. As opposed to some other areas of departments that may require a lot of like, heavy paper, non online databases.
Bruce Gillespie 2:00
Yeah. Well, that’s good. That makes the job a little bit easier than I guess.
Adam Bloomfield 2:05
Yeah, um, I’ve been sort of training for this, I feel like for a while now, I’ve been, you know, trying to make sure that all of our staff were comfortable online, or at least as comfortable online as they can be. I would probably describe myself as somebody who’s extremely online all the time. So, the transition was, like, seamless for me.
Bruce Gillespie 2:29
That’s great. But, of course, one part of this transition means that you guys just recently moved into those beautiful new offices in One Market, and then you’re not there anymore. That must be so disappointing. After waiting for these new offices for so long.
Adam Bloomfield 2:41
I didn’t think about that at first, until probably about week three from working from home. And once we started getting to like week three, I thought, wow, I’m spending just, almost just as much time not in the office as I ever spent in our brand new offices. And that was, that was a tough realization.
Bruce Gillespie 3:01
Yeah, no doubt, well, and I suspect to with all the supports that the Dean of Students Office offers, you folks are probably really busy right now, as students are trying to adapt to this new temporary state of normalcy.
Adam Bloomfield 3:14
It’s been an interesting level of busyness. Generally, this would be the time of year where things sort of actually taper off for us in terms of student requirements for support, because we were in week 10 of 12, when we got the instruction to work from home. And then, of course, with the development of sort of the COVID-19 response forums the university has created, like the fund for emergency funding for students, that sort of offloaded some of our usual needs for support this late in the game. So, it’s been a bit interesting sort of just, it’s been a lot more helping students navigate how they are still sort of figuring out taking remote classes, which has been an interesting sort of experience for everyone.
Bruce Gillespie 4:10
Yes. It strikes me that your team at the Dean of Students Office is a really tight knit group. You’ve been, you’ve all been around for quite a while you’ve worked together really closely for a while. What’s it like to work remotely with you? Are you guys doing, sort of, social things together online as well as meetings? Or are you just in meetings all the time, and so, by the end the day you’re tired of each other? Like, what’s that look like?
Adam Bloomfield 4:30
Yeah so, we have actually, we’ve done something that we don’t normally, we never did before in person, which was we actually now have a bigger Dean of Students Office multicampus meeting with the Waterloo team as well. That was something that we never really did routinely before all of this. So, we have our separate multicampus meeting on Thursdays where we all get together, more information from Kate and Adam are are disseminated that way. But then, we also spend a fair bit of time socializing. And we try to incorporate some sort of social aspect to those meetings. And then, actually, just before this interview, I had our inter, or our smaller Dean of Students Office meeting, which is the five of us. And again, it’s the same, sort of, we get updates, and then we socialize for a little bit, just so it’s a little less isolating.
Bruce Gillespie 5:28
That’s nice. And I think you need to do that in order to keep those connections alive, right?
Adam Bloomfield 5:32
Mhmm, I’m really thankful, if anyone can be thankful, for this whole work from home thing, that we actually have this opportunity to connect a bit more with the Waterloo staff.
Bruce Gillespie 5:45
Yeah, I mean, as you said, that’s, that’s probably something you don’t normally do. So, it is a, it’s an interesting opportunity to, sort of, share notes, I guess and see what, and then learn from what you’re doing, what works and what’s not working and that kind of stuff.
Adam Bloomfield 5:57
Bruce Gillespie 5:58
That’s great. So, one of the questions we’re asking everybody is, you know, how are you sort of keeping yourself busy and or distracted in your off hours when you would probably not be sitting at home all the time? What are you doing?
Adam Bloomfield 6:10
I keep thinking I do a lot more than I normally do. I definitely came into this in March, thinking, I’m going to do so many things. I’m going to learn to cook. I’m going to exercise more. None of those things have panned out.
Bruce Gillespie 6:22
It’s still early. It’s still early.
Adam Bloomfield 6:24
Is it? I don’t know. I’ve just been watching my usual standard of favorite television and movies. I just finished rewatching Parks and Rec which is a nice, warm, fuzzy TV show.
Bruce Gillespie 6:41
Perfect, perfect pandemic watching.
Adam Bloomfield 6:43
Yes. And I just finished rewatching my favorite movie Auntie Mame.
Bruce Gillespie 6:47
Adam Bloomfield 6:48
Rosalind Russel, 1958
Bruce Gillespie 6:51
Oh my God, this whole podcast will be you and I talking about Rosalind Russel, Auntie Mame. I can’t wait.
Adam Bloomfield 6:55
Oh my gosh, let’s not. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves just yet, we’ll have to have a second episode.
Bruce Gillespie 7:02
So, you’re keeping busy, that’s good.
Adam Bloomfield 7:03
Mm hmm. And then, I also have my cat here somewhere and she’s desperate for attention 24 hours a day. So, she’s loving that I’m home all the time.
Bruce Gillespie 7:13
That’s good because it seems like there’s a there’s a real mix with cats and dogs, right? Typically, dogs are really excited people around and cats are not always the same way. So, you’ve got a cat who definitely likes having around.
Adam Bloomfield 7:23
Yes, I actually just before this interview, she was sitting on my desk with our team meeting and she kept pushing the laptop lid closed, so I had to move her.
Bruce Gillespie 7:34
I think my favorite part of any video call these days is when like a stray cat tail suddenly enters the window. It’s like “oh, welcome.”
Adam Bloomfield 7:41
Like a little, like a little shark fin.
Bruce Gillespie 7:43
Yeah, exactly. Slightly less menacing. Exactly.
Adam Bloomfield 7:47
Bruce Gillespie 7:49
Well that’s good. So, you’re watching TV and, sort of, catching up on movies. That’s good. Maybe there’ll still be time to pick up on those new things. The exercising the cooking.
Adam Bloomfield 7:56
Yes, I did actually start running in the evenings, which has actually been kind of nice. But, we’ll see how that holds out.
Bruce Gillespie 8:04
And you’ll fill me in the details because I probably don’t know them all. But, the Dean of Students Office has also been working on a cookbook of sorts for students, right?
Adam Bloomfield 8:12
Yes, I don’t know too many of those details. That’s actually been an initiative done by Andrea. We’ve had students this past term, working with the Dean of Students Office focusing on food insecurity. And so, they’ve been working with Veritas on some events. And this cookbook was one, is, sort of like, the last minute slapdash things that we tried to put together, a sort of a, we’re all working from home, we’re all in this together, sort of thing. And it was, it was a further extension of the food calendar that Andrea had put together earlier this term, where we indicated all of the campus events where food would be available in case somebody was hungry for a snack.
Bruce Gillespie 9:02
Yeah, I thought it’s a great idea. And again, I’ve been watching those recipes come through on the Dean of Students Instagram account, and they’re all very straightforward recipes with stuff you’d probably have in your pantry already. Nothing fancy. Nothing, you know, you wouldn’t have at home. I thought that’s a really good idea.
Adam Bloomfield 9:16
Uh huh. I really love them because I have zero aptitude for cooking.
Bruce Gillespie 9:21
Well, again, you’ve got all this time to start learning, to, you know, load up some videos and then go to town.
Adam Bloomfield 9:26
Bruce Gillespie 9:28
Adam, thank you so much for joining us today.
Adam Bloomfield 9:29
Oh, thank you for having me. It’s been really fun.
Bruce Gillespie 9:33
Our next guest is Natasha O’Neill, a third-year Digital Media and Journalism student and the editor in chief of The Sputnik, our campus newspaper. Her team has continued to publish stories after campus was closed. So, I asked her what that experience was like.
Natasha O’Neill 9:48
So, it’s actually been pretty good. We were able to, like, upload a few stories in April, obviously we were supposed to putting out a full issue, which ranges about to, like, I want to say about 20 stories, I think we got to half that. So, we produced about 10. And that was out of the creativity of my team mainly. So, a lot of them have had stories that they wanted to pitch or they wanted to do for a while now. And of course, like being a monthly publication, we always have to try and like think about what we’re doing next month. So in March, I was deciding what stores I wanted to do for April. So, there was already ideas around for my team that they were able to complete remotely, which is really fun. But other than that, it hasn’t been too hard, like producing content. I’m working on a story, currently myself, just to have something to do and give a little content out there about the quarantine and how it’s been on Laurier Brantford students. And so, I’ve gotten to speak with a wide variety of students, finishing school, while they were finishing school, while they were not finishing school, and an international student who’s not able to go home right now, which is really interesting.
Bruce Gillespie 11:07
Are you planning on updating the content on The Sputnik website throughout the summer? Are you looking, are you nearing the end of your normal production schedule?
Natasha O’Neill 11:14
I’ve been giving them a break in terms of April, I don’t want to push them because a lot of them are really stressed about finishing exams and having to navigate online learning, which I totally understand. I am planning on finishing my term in a few days. However, things are up in the air right now with my summer employment at the Brantford Expositor, we’re not really sure exactly where it lands with everything going on. So, if by chance they can’t offer me a job, I’m gonna head down to Brantford anyway, and hopefully be able to work on Sputnik things as well as other freelance journalism ideas that I have, that I’ve been wanting to do. So, I think that’s the goal for right now. But honestly, who knows, at this point, everything can change in a few weeks.
Bruce Gillespie 12:05
It’s totally true. I think the mantra these days for everything is everything is up in the air, we’ll see what things look like tomorrow.
Natasha O’Neill 12:11
Yeah, and I’m trying to stay, like, there was a part of me a few weeks ago that was very stressed about this job that is so up in the air. And I have been bothering my poor editor so often. However, I’ve kind of just relaxed a little bit and realize that if it doesn’t go through, maybe I can volunteer for them, while continuing on the CERB program with the government. Or potentially I can get another job in a field that I’ve never done before, which could be interesting.
Bruce Gillespie 12:42
How did the end of the semester turn out for you?
Natasha O’Neill 12:45
Well, it was a little rocky to say the least, I don’t want to say that it was completely smooth sailing. I mean, any end of semester is stressful for most students, I want to say that I wasn’t exactly stressed in terms of schoolwork, because I’m a very, like, I’m a planner. So, I already knew how I was going to get all my assignments done, exams done, etc. like, months before they were due. However, I think it was just my living situation that had changed so drastically that ended up having a huge impact on my schoolwork and my mindset towards school. So, back in Ottawa, where I am currently, my parents don’t have the best WiFi. So, I wasn’t able to go home when they cancelled classes and moved everything online. All of my roommates pretty much left and I had to stay there to be able to participate in online classes where I had participation marks. So, I ended up moving into my boyfriend’s parents house with him when he came down from Sudbury for the end of term. So, I could stay with him and not be by myself completely. So, I lived with them for two weeks, which was pretty interesting to say the least, they have different routines that were, that was interesting to used to. And just like trying to all, like, him and his sister would also be doing school. So like, trying to figure out when it was like time to hang out and time to, like, do school was really interesting. But, I think overall, I completed it pretty well. I think that my expectations of myself were at the same height, which I don’t think was a good mindset to have. I think you need to be gentle with yourself in terms of, like, doing actual schoolwork and also realizing you’re in a very stressful and difficult situation.
Bruce Gillespie 14:38
Absolutely. And I think that’s what we’re seeing on the on the faculty side as well is that, you know, here are the things you would normally do in a semester when things are, are running as per normal, but in this really unusual situation that most of us are not really deeply planned for and happened so quickly. You really just have to say, what’s the basic level of stuff that needs to get done? How can I do this small piece of it well, and then sort of, you know, figure the rest out later because because as you say, this is a really big change. And for a lot of us, as you mentioned, working from home, working in a different environment, not being able to work or study on campus is a big enough change in and of itself, regardless of everything else going on.
Natasha O’Neill 15:19
And just to add to that, a lot of people, like, I think the part that really got me the most, and this is gonna sound so crazy. When the YMCA closed, that was like a big moment for me going, “Wow, like, what the heck am I gonna do?” Because obviously, a lot of people struggle, like, people struggle with mental health on a daily basis, but also getting rid of, like, that thing that could potentially help, you know, with like, physical exercise that, that was a hard impact, I think on a lot of students and to faculty as well. I saw a lot of profs that would work out at the gym as well.
Bruce Gillespie 15:30
That’s right. And you’re normally someone is really active right? Like, you used to work at the YMCA, you’re a lifeguard you’re always on the go.
Natasha O’Neill 16:02
I am constantly on the go. And I think that that was the hardest thing was letting my routine go. So, on top of, like, being editor of the paper, I also do classes like a normal student, I work at the YMCA ever so often, I was always working out because I’m a varsity athlete on the soccer team. So, having to have all that completely wiped was like, “Oh my gosh, I have so much free time. What do I do?”
Bruce Gillespie 16:30
Do you know what’s going on with varsity teams right now,
Natasha O’Neill 16:32
I have heard very little in terms of sports teams, I am really hoping that we can continue our season next year. Fortunately, and I know this is gonna sound strange, but we ended up not making it to provincials this year. And provincials actually would have been held on the 13th and 14th of March. And that was the weekend that pretty much everything started closing down. So, even if we would have made it to provincials, we wouldn’t have been able to participate. So, there’s a part of me that’s pretty thankful that we ended up saving our varsity team from, like, potentially spending money and not being able to go anywhere. I haven’t been in too much contact with the girls, we got chopped a lot, like, we weren’t able to do a lot of fundraising this year. And we were planning on doing at the end of the year. But obviously, that was out of the question. We weren’t able to do athletic banquet, but now they’ve just been putting something out saying that they’re going to hold a virtual athletic banquet over the next week. I’m not 100% sure how it’s gonna work. But, I think it’s posted on Instagram. So, it should be pretty accessible.
Bruce Gillespie 17:43
When does your, when does your soccer season normally start, like, if you were hoping to start up again, would that be in September?
Natasha O’Neill 17:49
Um, I think, I mean, personally, me, I’m always kind of training for that soccer season. So, I’ve been keeping really active while in quarantine, probably too active in some people’s eyes. I go on walks with my dog all the time, I’m always going on a run. I’m trying to do a lot of workout at home programs, which is really helpful. But, I think the goal is, we usually start after reading week in October. And that’s when we start seeing our coaches. And we actually like have a team and we actually start practicing as a team. But, that potentially, with things going on, I’m not sure where that leads, like, there’s so much uncertainty. I have no idea when we could be starting, we don’t know when the YMCA is going to open, because if the YMCA doesn’t open, we usually have two of our practices a week there. So, it would be very interesting to see how, if, our sports team could continue, if any, could continue at Laurier Brantford.
Bruce Gillespie 18:48
Well, hopefully things get figured out and that your summer goes as planned. And we see your byline over the place and, and that things are changed by the fall, so you can back get back to a normal soccer season as well. Tasha, thanks so much for joining us today.
Natasha O’Neill 19:02
Thank you so much for having me.
Bruce Gillespie 19:05
Our final guest is Kate Rossiter, an associate professor in the Community Health program. Part of her past research involves looking at historic pandemics. So, I asked her what it’s like to live through the COVID-19 pandemic.
Kate Rossiter 19:19
That’s a good question. It’s actually really, really uncanny. So, I was most involved in pandemic research a while ago, like, a decade ago, when I actually first started at Laurier, just coming out of my PhD, which was in public health and moving into sort of a more of a kind of independent research role, I guess. But prior to that, I’d actually started working on this large scale project about pandemics at the Joint Center for Bioethics at the University of Toronto. And prior to that my schooling for the last three years before that had been in Public Health and I had been really, really interested in pandemics, and had made friends with people who were also really interested in pandemics. And fortunately, we’re all still quite good friends. And what we’ve said to one another is just how kind of uncanny it is that, like, we spent all this time thinking about what a pandemic might look like, and then to see it come alive is really weird.
So, you know, we used to kind of, it almost felt like reading some of the research was like reading like spooky stories about what would happen if morgues should fill up? What kind of systems levels collapse, what would that look like? So, to kind of see some of those pieces come to life. I was reading this morning about those refrigerated morgue trucks of the morgues in Brooklyn that are filling up with bodies. And in fact, I kind of remember thinking about scenarios, just like that, which, you know, felt morbid and kind of distant at the time. So, it’s really weird to see some of those pieces come alive in real time. And it’s also really weird, I think, to sort of feel like maybe I have, you know, I’m kind of looking one step ahead that, like, the next pieces feel like they make sense to me around, like, gosh, we’re gonna really need a whole lot of testing and tracing to get out of this lockdown, or the kind of place of anticipating the what comes next piece. It really does feel like, you know, a novel that I read a decade ago has suddenly come to pass and that’s a very weird feeling.
Bruce Gillespie 21:22
It must be. Does the research suggest anything that we should be thinking about these days that you think would be helpful on an individual scale.
Kate Rossiter 21:32
Um, you know, the research that I was, the research that I was involved in, and I was, it was a project where I was supposed to be a postdoc, but then I came here. It was a large project, headed by Dr. Ross Upshur, a lovely man, and it was looking at ethics and pandemic planning. And it was really coming out of SARS, but thinking about the possibility of other pandemics like this one. And so, the focus there was really on the sort of both the social and the ethical pieces around, like, how do we behave in a pandemic? How do we think about important things? Like, how do we share resources? How do we share data? How do we prevent some of the, kind of, socially produced blowback that I think comes?
So, you know, by way of personal advice, no, not really. I think more the advice that I would have, tends to be at the kind of organizational level, which is actually just to make room for thinking about those pieces that are not medical, but that are actually really ethical in nature. And that, you know, that are going to come about in any kind of mass illness situation. So, you know, how do we make room for certain forms of inequity? How do we use this as a jumping off point for addressing inequality or inequity? How do we think about distributing scarce resources? How do we provide for people who have put themselves on the front lines. So, if we are asking grocers and doctors and nurses to be on the front line, and we have a kind of funny array of frontline workers right now, what do we socially owe those people? So, you know, how do we, what’s the, sort of, kinds of social reciprocity do we engage in at the bigger, bigger level to make those jobs feel worth it or to signal the fact that we got people’s back? So, those are those are more of the things that I’ve been interested in from a kind of longer, long ago research piece. And really, I think those mostly come to pass in the the kind of organizations and institutions that I work in. For an individual level, oh, my god, I don’t know, buy a lot of Netflix. Spend all your money on streaming services.
Bruce Gillespie 23:39
Kate Rossiter 23:39
I don’t know, like, don’t don’t skimp on chocolate and wine.
Bruce Gillespie 23:43
Perfect, I’ve done that too.
Kate Rossiter 23:44
We’ve done that too. Yeah. Like, don’t be too hard on yourself. I mean, these are just the thing like the pep talks I give to myself every single day.
Bruce Gillespie 23:53
I’m curious to know, then, because if your research was, sort of, at the organization level, are you someone who’s completely tuned in to the day to day reporting about how the pandemic is playing out? Or are you, is that sort of too close to home and you’re gonna look at this later?
Kate Rossiter 24:06
I’m not checked out of it. I really want to know, and I am actually following it really closely. I want to know all the bits and pieces I want to know what the responses are. I’ve been looking at responses in other places in the world. I’ve been trying to follow both the epidemiology and the virology. So, no, I’ve actually been pretty tuned in. Yeah, I’m teaching Public Health in the fall, or so far at any rate, so I also, whenever I feel like I’ve gone too far down the rabbit hole, I say to myself, like, “Oh, actually, it’s just research for teaching. I’m actually getting ready for the fall.” So, I kind of have been able to write off my time commitment to other people’s Twitter accounts.
Bruce Gillespie 24:45
So, speaking of thinking about the fall and classes, how has your, how has your life changed in the past six or seven weeks since in person classes?
Kate Rossiter 24:54
How’s your pandemic? As they say.
Bruce Gillespie 24:56
Kate Rossiter 24:57
So, um, my pandemic has been hard actually. I am one of those people who really relies on a whole bunch of systems of care. So,I’ve got two little kids, and I’ve got a parent who has Alzheimer’s. And all of those systems have fallen totally apart. So, my kids obviously are not in school and are home with me, and my parent who has dementia, her long term care facility has a number of cases. So, we set her up with a whole bunch of care at the very beginning and hoped for the best. And then, those quickly kind of came to a stop, because they had a number of cases at the place where she is. So, we pulled her out, and we, you know, kind of, I guess, luckily have the facilities or the ability to have her here with us. But that, you know, I guess the other piece for me is a really intense learning experience about the nature of those caregiving systems, that the work I’ve been doing more recently in my academic life is around institutions and institutional violence. And so, this feels kind of up close and personal around how it looks when those things fall apart. So, I’ve been doing a lot of really, really day to day caretaking in fairly intense ways. And the word I guess I would use for my pandemic is that it is relentless and exhausting. So, I don’t have a lot of great things to say about my pandemic.
You know, you know, it’s bad that when you when you find yourself, like, your breaks, mental health breaks are checking flu trackers on Twitter that, like, that isn’t a great sign. Yeah, so I would say it’s hard. I mean, I really have a sense of profound gratitude for the people who do help us with caretaking and help us with those pieces in our normal life. Because the intensity of having to do all those pieces on our own, without any support is enormous and really has helped me, kind of, double down on on my own belief in how important shoring up those systems for everybody is, yeah.
Bruce Gillespie 27:16
I agree completely. I think you’re right. I think a lot of us have taken these systems, whether for eldercare or for childcare, for granted in some ways. And I think a lot of us hopefully will come out as being much more cognizant of how important they are. And like you said, how much shoring up they actually need.
Kate Rossiter 27:31
Yeah, and I’ve been, you know, again, because I’m an avid news consumer, I have, you know, people send me stories about like, you know, that are titled things like, “Parents running out of steam with homeschooling,” I’m like, yes, we ran out of steam four weeks ago with homeschooling, that’s for sure true. But, you know, I know that this is like always a, you know, you’re never supposed to do this, like, don’t read the comments, because, like, the worse people in society comment. But, the comments are always kind of telling and interesting around some of this stuff, because people, people go crazy and are like, you know, “These people shouldn’t have had kids if they didn’t want to take care of them.” And like, “You know, my mother raised seven children in a great depression, these people have nothing to care about.” And, you know, it’s like, really, you know, the kind of piece where I think people have, kind of, let themselves believe that empathy is a zero sum game, that like, we only have so much of it. And like, “If you had kids, you’re not getting my empathy. You should have known better.”
Well, at no point in history have we actually ever asked parents to be their kids’ educators, their friends, their, you know, their parents, their medical caregivers, their playmates. We haven’t asked people to be locked in the house with their dependents for weeks on end and I’m nervous about that as a social experiment. I’m nervous for parents, I’m nervous for kids. And I, you know, am also incredibly grateful for the people who help us with that when we’re not in lockdown. So yeah, so our pandemic has been a learning lesson. It’s been long, it’s been hard. I am tired, so tired. I’m running out of things to do in our house, these four walls. But, you know what though, that being said, I also, we’re doing okay, we’ve got enough room, we’ve got enough food, we’ve got, you know, mostly a good, we mostly try to maintain good senses of humor. So, we’re pulling it together.
Bruce Gillespie 29:31
But, that’s not nothing right?
Kate Rossiter 29:32
It’s not nothing.
Bruce Gillespie 29:35
Kate, thank you so much for joining us today.
Kate Rossiter 29:37
Bruce Gillespie 29:41
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